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Trilobite
Registered: 08-01

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The Albino Negro [L�t] had this to say about Robocop:
I posted this in another forum and figured I'd repost here before I went to bed - in case people are going to bed feeling uneasy, maybe it'll help just a bit.
(many reassuring things)
To me, the day ended on a positive note. I saw the nation work together in a way I never thought it could. I look forward to things just getting better from here on out.

I agree completely. And yes, it helps. Thank you.

I was greatly reassured by all media reports that described the massive outpouring of public support (blood, supplies, money, living space, labor), or described the specific actions being taken by federal and local authorities, like FEMA teams being mobilized, Air Force and Navy jets patrolling the East Coast, the FAA monitoring all remaining domestic flights in the air and getting them to a safe landing...just seeing a direct, swift, and--above all else--positive response to the horrors of today made a world of difference to me.

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09-12 00:43
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Astroman
Registered: 04-01
Will choke to death for food.

I wrote this like 6 hours ago, then when I went to post I couldn't access the forums again. I then fell asleep watching the news--I'm exhausted and worn out from watching this all day.

Jennings is losing it on ABC...

What a fucking day.

All I can think of is the Romans...Adrianople.

I was at work in VA Beach...customers and employees walking up every few minutes with more news. We left at 2, our CEO was to visit tomorrow--cancelled.

This is scary. This is like the beginning of the end for us.

WE CANNOT POSSIBLY BEGAN TO PROCESS THIS. It will take a long time, perhaps to long for us to be able to truly know how we will be effected.

The Romans did not know the significance of Adrianople. They didn't understand that the tributes they began to pay were bad, and letting the Germans onto thier soil so fast, without Romanizing them would undermine their society.

These terrorists are the new barbarians. I draw this allusion becuase like the Romans, we have no way of fighing back. Everyone wants to strike back at the evil, but who? How? We have no way to fight off these attacks, much as the Roman's slow moving, stationed army was inadequate and at a loss as how to fight back the swift barbarian raids, the terrorist attacks of their time.

I can think of the horror and tragedy now. I can see the World Trade Center--gone forever, the Pentagon viiolated, hundreds dead, many still dying under the rubble. I cannot forget the image of the 2nd plane hitting taken from the ground, or the report of jumpers from the World Trade Center, including a man and woman holding hands. Imagine that was you, maybe with your husband/wife, boyfriend/girlfriend, or just a fellow office worker you were going to die with.

But I can also think of the future, and the long term consequences. They can't keep the markets closed forever--stocks may crash. More attacks can come. We may have to live at the mercy of the terrorists and in daily fear like people in England and Isreal.




I woke up at 3:30 in the morning. The events of yesterday were all so fantastic, and surreal, I was hoping they were a dream. Sadly, they were not.
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Al
Registered: 05-00

I GOTCHA DEMOCRACY RIGHT HERE!

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rawr had this to say about Robocop:
Shit, my friend in New York just informed me of this on AIM. This be some fucked up shit. If this starts a war, I'm dropping out of college and moving to Vancouver.

[Edited by rawr on 09-11 at 06:32]

You are a fucking coward.
I don't think anything else needs to be said, I hope you dare not call yourself a man, nor a human being.

What kind of a piece of shit would be thinking about his OWN GODDAMN SAFETY WHEN SEVERAL THOUSAND OF HIS COUNTRYMEN HAVE JUST BEEN KILLED BY A TERRORIST ATTACK.

Agreed. As I just said to The Evil Oppressive Destroyer of Forums on ICQ, I am fucking angry. I am not remotely nationalist or right-wing and I'm hardly the greatest fan of the US government or it's foreign policies, but when all is said and done you guys are still my brothers and vice versa.

Sorry I never got the chance to sort out this thread, the server went down and after being awake for 27 hours I kind of collapsed. I'm getting to it now though.

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My love and support goes out to all my friends and any forum users in NYC and the US.

Hoping we come through this as stronger nations and better people.

09-12 01:00
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elpintogrande
Registered: 09-00
WE ARE SKUD MOADE

And as I just said to Al, it's good to know who our friends are when the shit hits the fans. I mean we can always count on Canada, England, and Israel. Germany and Russia really weren't a surprise given how dependent they both are on us anymore. But France!!!

France has got our backs.

It's on.

09-12 01:02
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necrofiche
Registered: 08-01

Everywhere I am hearing " I can't believe it, it looked like a movie."

Can you imagine a film with a similar plot being made prior to this atrocity?! No. It would be completely ludicrous to suggest that four airliners could be succesfully hijacked within half an hour, then three of those planes succesfully smashing into their respective targets.

I am not an American, but I am shaken still. I will feel even worse when my mind can grasp the full horror of this day.

09-12 01:05
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Evangelion.M
Registered: 10-00

I was napping outside of work, waiting for my day to begin, when I get woken up by my girlfriend, telling me something's happened at the WTC. I didn't want to believe it, seemed like a bad dream at the time.

I got out of my car and started walking into our office building. The ground floor is mostly taken up by Boeing and a large number of their flight instructors with 2 huge simulators, and engineer types. There was a group of them milling about outside, obviously distressed and crying about something major.

It didn't sink in until I stepped into our corporate offices on the 3rd floor, and everyone was in a daze, listening to the radio, or watching the makeshift TV stand by the Inside Sales area. Everyone was just numb from shock. People started going home early, and the volume of incoming calls was off by 75% or more. It was like a ghost town by 2 pm PST. I'm still in shock now. What kind of maniacs would do something so terrible, because they don't like our way of life or who we associate with? I am not a bloodthirsty person, but just this once, I howl in rage and pray that eventually, the perpetrators are either bombed into the Middle Ages, get thrown off the Sears Tower back first, or executed live on television. Even if that happened, it would not be enough to heal the scars this even has caused. Bastards.

I hope they rebuild the World Trade Center.
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Trillian
Registered: 07-01
I have killed many threads by now.

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You are a fucking coward.
I don't think anything else needs to be said, I hope you dare not call yourself a man, nor a human being.

What kind of a piece of shit would be thinking about his OWN GODDAMN SAFETY WHEN SEVERAL THOUSAND OF HIS COUNTRYMEN HAVE JUST BEEN KILLED BY A TERRORIST ATTACK.

Jesus christ, you are almost as bad as the fucking peope who do this.


Refusing to kill people is not cowardice. Accepting an authority that is forcing you to kill others, when you believe it is wrong, is cowardice.

Angry retribution is exactly what we are seeing the results of here today.
This is the house that anger and hatred have built.

If we would like to eradicate images like this from the world, then we have to start with the ideas that create them. Those of you who who have used words like 'towelheads' and 'Moslem scum' should be ashamed of yourselves.
You are creating more of the hell we're seeing on the news.

Let there be restraint and tolerance, so that this cycle may grind to a halt before it kills us all.

09-12 01:12
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Vorpal Bunny
Registered: 11-00

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If we would like to eradicate images like this from the world, then we have to start with the ideas that create them.

Cecil and I were discussing just this point as we were watching this shit tonight. This could very well turn into a holy war to eradicate the belief structure that allows, no, encourages such things to take place.

Is this a generalization based on the biased Western media? Yes. I'm just stating my fears of how this will progress.

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Stuntcock
Registered: 10-00
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Trillian had this to say about Robocop:
quote:
Azzhole had this to say about Robocop:
You are a fucking coward.
I don't think anything else needs to be said, I hope you dare not call yourself a man, nor a human being.

What kind of a piece of shit would be thinking about his OWN GODDAMN SAFETY WHEN SEVERAL THOUSAND OF HIS COUNTRYMEN HAVE JUST BEEN KILLED BY A TERRORIST ATTACK.

Jesus christ, you are almost as bad as the fucking peope who do this.


Refusing to kill people is not cowardice. Accepting an authority that is forcing you to kill others, when you believe it is wrong, is cowardice.

Angry retribution is exactly what we are seeing the results of here today.
This is the house that anger and hatred have built.

If we would like to eradicate images like this from the world, then we have to start with the ideas that create them. Those of you who who have used words like 'towelheads' and 'Moslem scum' should be ashamed of yourselves.
You are creating more of the hell we're seeing on the news.

Let there be restraint and tolerance, so that this cycle may grind to a halt before it kills us all.


Jesus fucking Christ, Trillian, you're fucking dead-on as anyone can be... you just wrapped up 5 pages of my ranting with that!

09-12 01:20
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i_am_the_hydra
Registered: 02-01
Get in the jail.

"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, from the Gulag Archipelago

09-12 01:23
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Sicko
Registered: 09-00
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I just keep thinking how beautiful the day was. It was so perfect. The sky was so blue and to look outside you'd never know that only miles away there was pure carnage.

09-12 01:31
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DarthVersace
Registered: 07-01
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I wrote this hours and hours ago, after the forums collapsed. I'm posting it here now.

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To those familiar with Something Awful: The SA Forums have utterly, utterly collapsed.

It was my only source of news. I'm on a 56k connection, I couldn't muscle myway onto CNN.com or BBC.co.uk. A NYC Forum Goon with a webcam wasbroadcasting images of the burning World Trade Center. The thread reached over 15 pages in under half an hour before it came crashing down on the rest of SA.

I went in to work today, and came home fifteen minutes later. The Loop area, the center of Chicago, has shut down. The colleges, museums, stock exchange, government buildings and businesses are closed. Games have been cancelled. Public transit passes are free. The trains are packed.

Everyone is going home. I came home half an hour ago.

I'm a soft touch. I kept it together long enough to make it to the CTA station, but I cried on the platform. I blame some fuchsia-haired kid freaking out into his cell phone. "IT'S WAR FOR SURE! IT'S WAR FOR SURE!" Couldn't maintain composure, sitting next to that. When I started up, everyone thought I was a 17-year-old late for school (I look young for my age) or I knew someone in New York. A sympathetic lady gave me Kleenex. And then, out of nowhere, a stranger appeared, snapped my photograph with an expensive-looking camera, and disappeared again.

If a photo of a blonde, pregnant woman in a blue cotton shirt handing a small, brown girl in an olive-drab jacket a tissue shows up on the wire services on in the papers, let me know.

New York doesn't look like New York anymore. The skyline is gone. The WTC is dead. This is like the plot to a movie I would refuse to see, on account of a ridiculous premise. This our Pearl Harbor. Our generation has been defined by this, and onyl then. In a hundred years, this is all they will remember of us.

The Legendary Assholes of the Internet, from Kyanka to Stile to Chez Noir of PoE, have suddenly decided that now is not the time to be an asshole. They're asking for blood donations. They're pulling their pages offline as a sign of respect. It's surreal. These are good, decent people who can feel sympathy for the pain fo others; I've always subconciously known that. But the sudden breaks in character are as disarming as they are touching.

Soylent from Rotten.Com has posted a series called "Swan Dive." These are people jumping from the burning World Trade Center, floor 60 and above. I have seen Stile's kitten video. I have seen videos of castrations. I have seen "Train Girl." And these three blurry, still photographs are the most horrible things I've ever witnessed. Soylent also claims that the forth airliner, which crashed in rural Pennsylvania, was shot down by a military jet. That, so far, is unconfirmed by the BBC.

That's it. I don't know what else to say. I'm sorry this happened. I'm sorry for everything. No one deserves this. And no one deserves what's to inevitably come.
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09-12 01:41
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Euri
Registered: 08-00
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Sicko had this to say about Robocop:
I just keep thinking how beautiful the day was. It was so perfect. The sky was so blue and to look outside you'd never know that only miles away there was pure carnage.


This is much what I felt. Right now the night is perfect. It is quiet, there is a slight breeze, and the stars are brilliant. There is no sound, nobody on the streets. The world died today.
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a43
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Trilian and I_am_the_hydra, (albeit through the words of Solzhenitsyn) You are both so correct. 2 wrongs does not make one right. While I feel deeply for those who died due to this atrocity, I can have little or no respect for those of you who practically calls for genocide.

However, this is indeed a black day for humanity.
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Al
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I GOTCHA DEMOCRACY RIGHT HERE!

okay, I'm done snipping, hopefully the thread should read a bit easier now. Good luck everyone.

09-12 01:50
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SumGayGai
Registered: 03-01
I'm not gay but I wish I was.

UPDATE ON ONE OF MY FRIENDS WHO WORK AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER...

Steven Steiner was working today. I haven't talked to him yet, but then I saw on http://www.cnn.com/ that he was on the news.

http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2001/09/12/natpkg.cameraman.cnn.med.html is the url.

He overslept and was on his way to work when the plane struck...

NO WORD ON THE OTHER PERSON... SHE IS PRESUMED DEAD... GOD HELP US!!!
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rope kid
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dead baby

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2-4601
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ATTENTION WHORE!

Well im in australia, and according to the news on channel 7 early this morning, our Prime minister has stated that we will assist america in any way possible. Our prime minister (John Howard) was in washington at the time of the occurance as well and you guys probably saw him on TV cause alot of the american reporters and stuff were attending a conferance with him.

So you can add us to the list of people who are going to end up on your side if anything happens i guess. Dunno what our relatively small military can do though.

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Vorpal Bunny
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[img-unclesamreallypissed]

Here's the one I made after the first four hours of sitting in front of my TV with tears streaming down my face. God, I'm still dizzy and delirious, and I doubt I'll sleep tonight.

09-12 01:57
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Ryuukishi
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Al had this to say about Robocop:

Agreed. As I just said to The Evil Oppressive Destroyer of Forums on ICQ, I am fucking angry. I am not remotely nationalist or right-wing and I'm hardly the greatest fan of the US government or it's foreign policies, but when all is said and done you guys are still my brothers and vice versa.


Oh, Al. I really, honestly got a little lump in my throat when I read that.

I tend to agree, I can even understand the frustration and anger at America however it seems beyond clear that these governments are encouraging this action and that it is as serious as the brainwashing of citizens in the facist powers of the second world war. I am at this point having a hard time seeing a difference.
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Doctor Meat
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I approve of Trillians and Hyrda's level headed thoughts. But I would also note that an Islamic fatwah can not be reversed. It goes beyond mere propoganda or jingoism. The young men in terrorist orginizations have been raised from birth to believe that destroying the great satan is a moral imperative. When Chinese and Russian leaders told their people "the US is no longer the enemy", the people were skeptical and bitter, but they stood down and let the healing began. When Afghani Muslim moderates told the Taliban that the US is no longer the enemy, the Taliban killed them for being(in their eyes) blasphemous and hypocritical cowards.

[Edited by Doctor Meat on 09-12 at 02:06]
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rope kid
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dead baby

thanks to uk supporters.

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I approve of Trillians and Hyrda's level headed thoughts. But I would also note that an Islamic fatwah can not be reversed. It goes beyond mere propoganda or jingoism. The young men in terrorist orginizations have been raised from birth to believe that destroying the great satan is a moral imperative. When Chinese and Russian leaders told their people "the US is no longer the enemy", the people were skeptical and bitter, but they stood down and let the healing began. When Afghani Muslim moderates told the Taliban that the US is not the enemy, the Taliban killed them for blasphemy. You can not simply reverse a fatwah.

It is not an issue of Islam being an evil religion. That is a horrible, horrible view of the situation. Do not presume to lose your religious tolerance in light of these events.

However, just as the Nazis used the hatred of Jews to further their own power base and goals, it seems the Taliban and other groups are using the hatred of the US to brainwash it's people into servitude.

I hate what I'm saying because I am an intense pacifist and I hate war, but I can't see anything besides reforming these governments that will work - ala Japan and Germany in WW2. The governments can not be persuaded to change, and the people will back them because either they are afraid or have been indoctrinated so fully that they will not give up. There will be no effective persuasion. Leaving these governments in power would be as big a mistake, I feel, as leaving Hitler in power at the end of World War 2 would have been.
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thanks to uk supporters.



Awsome Pictures man.
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rad edward
Registered: 04-01

I have been trying to sleep on and off all day

I have slept four hours in the last forty-eight. (Your never really awake and your never really asleep with insomnia)


This is fucking terrible. I dont know anyone in new york, I have never been to new york, shit I might even have a hard time finding new york on a map. I realized that i had went to sleep about forty-five minutes before the attack (5:00 pst) and woke up at seven. My roommate told me that a plane had struck the World Trade Center, and that it was on fire. I figured that some air traffic controller had fell asleep at the console, and passed out for a half-hour. Then I get online and see twenty fucking "cnn breaking news" emails in my box, and I figured out what went on. It seemed so surreal. So fucking surreal. I almost cried when I saw the pictures of the people jumping off the buildings. Jesus Christ, that could have been San francisco, or Los Angeles, or St. louis, anywhere. Innocent people where hijacked and fucking drove into some fucking buildings. They where probably just settling in, thinking about whether they should pay the three bucks to get the headphones for the in-flight movie or if they want a goddamn complimentary drink. Then some motherfuckers who think that somehow, someway, killing a shitload of people and doing hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damages will in any way make their country's lives better take over the goddamn plane. Probably spouting all their bullshit about the "terrible american zionists" and the "oppression suffered at your dirty capitalist hands" all the way until they parked the plane on some innocent typist's desk at 500mph. Jesus Christ, whomever was sitting there at ground zero was probably happy until the last fifteen seconds of their lives, thinking how great it was to have a window seat at the World Trade Center and how their career was really moving along. Then a low pitch starts in their ears, slowly getting louder..then shit on their desk starts to rattle then BAM! they are fucking roadkill by some goddamn terrorists who are jealous of the economic conditions of the US and instead of fucking DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, they whine about being oppressed and blow shit up. God, what a bunch of fucking children.




I really dont know what to say, but I do give my deepest condolonces and prayers to the family, loved ones, friends and bystanders to this atrocity. Turning Afghanistan or whomever into a parking lot wont ease your suffering or worries.
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